Posted August 19th, 2011 by 1Wrestling News Team

Editor’s note: The opinions expressed by author Jim Forzese are his own and do not necessarily reflect the views of anyone associated with
WWE Never Learns

I was truly hoping that when HHH took over some of the duties backstage in WWE that maybe HHH learned from all the past mistakes WWE has made through the years and correct them. It now appears to me that the same mistakes are being made yet again and more money is about to be left on the table. I will not completely condemn HHH as I think he has made some positive changes as well, but the one major crime is being done by HHH himself once again. The focus in any wrestling company should be on the wrestling talent. Never should the focus be on a non-wrestler. HHH has taken the spotlight off of CM Punk, the hottest wrestler in the business, and shifted the focus onto himself. HHH is doing his usual spotlight hogging and that is hurting the WWE yet again. Why do we need HHH on TV every week and apart of every major angle? That is poor booking and a cause as to why ratings are slipping after one the greatest promos in wrestling history helped bring the ratings up again.

Yes I understand that USA Network wants the return of “name value” stars but if those “stars” are not going to be wrestling each week and going on the house show circuit then those wrestlers should not be overshadowing the wrestlers that will be. Fans were willing to jump back on the WWE bandwagon after the CM Punk promo but now once again those fans have put the brakes on because they see that things are not changing at all and the ratings are proving this. Fans thought change was finally afoot but as I said, HHH has interjected himself into the spotlight and Punk is now becoming a background player to the new COO. When fans say they want the next Austin vs. McMahon we do not want new characters in the same angle portraying those two, we want the next great angle that was hot like that angle was.

I know HHH does not believe in CM Punk but the fans do and that should be all that matters. HHH needs to check his ego and go with what is best for the company is has a big stake in. HHH already made a poor choice in putting the belt back on Randy Orton yet again even though ratings prove that fans do not care about Orton as champion and are in fact bored by this. Yes fans pop for his entrance but the ratings do not increase for Orton as champion. I have no problem with Del Rio as champion because WWE absolutely needs to create new main event stars, but Orton holding the title again just tarnishes the value of the title belt. Del Rio may not help ratings but Alberto is a good choice for being elevated because Del Rio is a good character that can actually have great matches with almost anyone. When WWE keeps going to the same well over and over, fans will tune out because of sheer boredom, and it appears fans have once again.

It is just too much of the same thing over and over again. WWE makes me think that they are going to make a change in direction only to always fall back doing the same thing after a brief change. I do not want to see another authority figure being the focal point of the show. Maybe for a couple episodes to establish the character but then someone like HHH should not be seen again until something of significance is about to happen that an authority figure needs to interject himself into. WWE just keeps writing the same tired storyline over and over again and that is mainly because the team writing the stories has not really ever changed. Gerwitz, Stephanie, and Vince continually write to Vince’s vision and Vince’s vision has proven to be antiquated at best. WWE was about to strike gold with Punk and now it seems that WWE is satisfied with the little interest boost that WWE received for a week or two.

I still think HHH has a better vision than this but my fear is that this will now become the Stephanie and HHH show. My greatest fear is that the Kevin Nash text was from Stephanie and she and HHH will dominate TV like they once did. HHH is a smart guy and has a great mind for the business but sometimes I believe his ego and fear of losing his spot get the better of him. Too many talents have been held back or released because of these issues. I truly hope this will not happen again but time will tell. Take Raw for example, it appears Cena will go after Del Rio while Punk will be getting involved with Nash and HHH. Like Smackdown with Orton, Cena should be nowhere near the title anymore and Punk should be champion. Cena has the Rock at WrestleMania and the title should be nowhere near that match. Punk should be champion and carrying the company on his back as the hottest wrestler in the business right now, but I fear that HHH wants to get over on Punk instead.

I am glad WWE has pushed the boundaries of the PG rating constraints they are under but I still feel more can be done in that regard. Let more talents cut promos like Cena and Punk are and more top level stars will be created. It will not happen for everyone but reading a script will never elicit the same intensity as speaking from the heart does. The other real issue that will discourage talents is what is happening to Zack Ryder. This poor talent went out and created a character on his own and more importantly got it over on his own, yet Zack gets buried on TV. WWE wants wrestlers to do this very thing yet the one who does gets nowhere so why would that encourage any other talent to do it? Zack Ryder should be getting a major reward for creating a great character, yet Zack is barely on TV and when he is he is buried on TV. Talents will look at this and say why bother trying. That is a bad precedent to set for WWE.

Bottom Line:

I will not throw my hands in the air and completely criticize WWE but I will be skeptical that WWE has not learned from past mistakes. I will let these new angles play out for awhile longer before I pass full judgment but I will say that I am more leery now then I was just a few short weeks ago. Maybe WWE has a long term plan in place that changes the company’s direction and ratings rise significantly but I am nervous about this. I am not fully sure about HHH and his vision of things and I know Vince still calls all the shots but at some point I would hope WWE learns from past mistakes. Corrects them and the company prospers greatly. If WWE does not then the WWE just never learns. You have just read another chapter of the Forzese Files and as always feedback is greatly appreciated.

Jim Forzese

Category: Wrestling.

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  1. By fred, posted

    jim i agree with your assesment i read on a website that the goal was to put hhh over and i wouldnt be suprised because his ego is only as big as hogans. but he has stated that he has plans to reinvigorate the tag team division and god i hope so i love tag team wrestling. but yes time will tell.i dont agree with nash coming back i mean im a huge nash fan but he can barley walk and now punk goes from being the biggest thing in wrestling to mid card while mr. john superman can get shot 19 times get up and still win cena gets the title again omg they will never learn sometimes i agree woth you and sometimes i dont but your articals are very informative and yes hhh already has his spot established its time to stay off tv these are only my opions

  2. By Brian, posted

    Jim, I see the same things that you see. WWE had a red hot angle going with Punk and blew it. Even looking past how they brought him back too quickly HHH has once again stolen the spotlight on RAW. Every show now starts with a 15 minute HHH promo that while cool in 2000 is now just stale and boring. Also bringing in washed up guys like Nash or putting the belt on one of his buddies like Orton is terrible for business. Young guys with actual talent like the Miz, Alex Riley, Zack Ryder (the guy could be so over but they won’t push him even after he single handedly created his persona with zero help from the writers), Daniel Bryan, Wade Barrett are either left off the shows or get reduced time to connect with the audience. So Cena gets his 500th title match now against Del Rio (and probably wins since he can move t shirts, wristbands and spinning foam belts) while on Smackdown they build Mark Henry for a few weeks as a monster only to have Orton defeat him later on and knock him back down to the mid card. Orton and Cena are both like 10 time champs at this point… that is not only absurd but just shows how often the writers haphazardly throw the belts on those two. Just a shame that a once promising angle has been squashed for more of the same old same old. And when ratings drop they’ll probably try to say well it must be the fans don’t want CM Punk and they will release him or Ryder, Rhodes, DiBiase while immediately having whoever is champ lose the title to Cena/Orton.

  3. By vegasguy, posted

    While I find myself agreeing with a lot of peoples opinions lately, I have to say I don’t agree with many of these. I lost interested in WWE and pro wrestling altogether about 2 years ago, but came back recently cause yes, the punk angle was interesting and shouldn’t have been tossed away so quickly. But as a long time fan I’m happy to see old names that can really work an angle back on camera.

    To me, the problem of why I lost interest was WWE pushing new talent to quickly, and not recognizing when to push someone as heel/hero. Guys like kofi got to much camera time when they just weren’t interesting. Heck in the few weeks I’ve been watching again, I still haven’t seen him on mic. While punk is certainly interesting now, he was pushed to fast and should have gone heel a lot quicker.

    As someone who only now sees some guys for the first time, del rio is a complete snooze and mesh of overdone character types. As soon as he cashed in his mitb, I didn’t even want to watch WWE anymore. This guy shouldn’t even be having a lesser title let alone the one that represents the brand. Only reason I don’t want to call for him to lose it immediately, is that titles getting passed around way to much lately to inflate peoples records more id imagine. It changing hands again anytime soon might only serve to diminish it more then the current holder is doing just having it.

    I see no problem with a new vince vs. austin angle featuring hhh, as long as they can do something new with it.

    The PG was however a serious downfall in the brand, tying talents hands like it has. I hope to see them push that rating more, and let their guys go free on the mic more, else I won;t survive watching many more weeks.

  4. By Larry, posted

    Kevin Nash might be ok as gm but past his prime as wrestler. Agree about Zack Ryder. Put the tag team belts on him and Evan Bourne. They both deserve some gold.

  5. By joe, posted

    I think part of the problem is the WWE doesn’t really have any competition. Tna is building a solid company and puts together solid story lines. WWE had the best run in the attitude era when the WCW gave them a run for their money. I feel as long as there is no serious challenge to their spotlight they will have a laid back attitude towards story lines and the company.

  6. By anthony rivieccio, posted

    Hi jim
    To chime in; a question:
    Do you think part of the disinterest in general stems from the fact that
    A) wrestling is seen more times per week.
    Thus angles come and go so much quicker and thus a rookie in 10 years could be a 9 time champion and almost run out odf script material (sound familiar)
    And thus, even sadder the whole concept of champion is different. There was a time that the concept was holding the best not recapuring the belt. Prior to the 90s (and cable, internet, 800 numbers) a champ would be a champ 2 yrs or longer-min-thus making a lou Thez, brunos reign or even superstar grahams reign NoW still historic

  7. By sal "rough cuts" lasado, posted

    randy orton is a well deserved champion that can carry a company given the chance — let Randy be Randy — R K O !!!

  8. By Nick W, posted

    A few things stand out for me:-

    1/Trips is in a storyline. He is not really the head honcho, Vince still is. Trips brought in Sin Cara and it didn’t go well. They wanted another great Rey but it didn’t happen.
    2/ Del Rio has the belt because of the Mexico tour and as a foreign heel you rile the American audience but your home country loves you. Bret Hart did this perfectly and Sheamus to a lesser extent. I’d love to see a good anti-American group and it would help business over seas. I know America and Canada are the most important markets but Europe, Japan etc can turn a good buck.
    3/ I wish Nash was revealed as Del Rio’s bodyguard. i don’t think he could ever wrestle but I loved him to bits and he is a funny guy. Plus his size means he is a threat even in his old age.
    4/Orton is boring as the champ but Christian doesn’t have a strong gimmick, Mark Henry has been a joke for too long to be taken seriously as a monster heel, Khali can’t work a lick and Ziggler etc don’t quite fit the bill yet. Orton has name value and Ali always said that you sell more tickets when people want to see you lose.

    Knocking the WWE doesn’t change anything, they listen to sponsors not smarks. If you don’t like it don’t watch. I rarely watch but I keep up to date.
    New stars are being made all the time but people’s expectations are too high. Sometimes you get an Undertaker character who is golden but more often you get a Rocky Miavia who can be pushed to the stars but nothing happens.
    I think the WWE likes to give a nudge, sometimes a strong push at first then let their foot of the gas to see if the ‘talent’ can keep the momentum or if they need the machine and wins to get over.

    ***I will agree about Zak Ryder. I thought he was a shoe in for the future endevours wishes but what a guy. I would love the internet title to be real and the WWE could let guys wrestle special matches for
    Would it work? I don’t know but it’s possible and they could film them at house shows with a few cam-cords for effect.***

    I think a lot of problems could be solved though by a stronger tag division (to build single stars and help green wrestlers learn or create the next Road Warriors or Dudleys who are amazing tag guys but horrible in singles) and bringing back male, cowardly, cheating, funny managers. Diva’s look good but can they generate Heenan, Hart, Fuji heat?
    Plus you could draw some fans you lost by bringing back the old midcarders in manager roles.
    Then you can have a heel stable that isn’t in stupid conflicts and power struggles because a wrestler isn’t the leader.

    Damn! ;-)

  9. By Mike, posted

    I couldn’t agree with you more. I was concerned the WWE would create this storyline only to turn around and blow it, and that’s exactly what happened. Punk should be champion, and it seems like WWE is following TNA’s lead by making it the HHH show, just like TNA is making that the hogan and Bischoff show. The fans don’t want that, and I can’t understand why they insist on giving it to us anyway. I think a Clique reunion is on the way with HHH, Shawn Michaels, X-pac, and Nash. I disagree with you about Delrio. While he is a good wrestler, I think he was pushed too fast, and he sucks on the mic. Guys like Delrio and Miz should have someone explain to them the difference between a good promo and what they are doing. It used to be that a heel was hated, and fans wanted to see the face beat him. Now the heels cut such long and boring promos, you just want to change the channel. It’s more irritating or annoying than entertaining. Also screeching one or two words does not a good character make i.e. Vicki Guerro. I also think that the Zach Ryder character is terrible. He just acts goofy and dumb,like Eric Young in TNA. If that’s the best these 2 guys can do, they should call it a career and do something else. I have been a fan since Bob Bachlund was champion, so I go back a while. I will always be a fan, and I will continue to hold out hope that the wrestling industry will eventually give the fans what they want.

  10. By RG, posted

    I Disagree With your opinion on Randy Orton He is the Hottest Wrestler Right now Not Punk

  11. By Jose David, posted

    I would like to agree on Joe’s comment on a theoretical level. TNA is solidifying and not sooner, but later, they will go after the WWE. My question is, why is C.M. Punk still at WWE. He should just quit and go to he believes would get better treatment, whether that be TNA, Ring of Honor, Japan, etc.

  12. By Jim Forzese, posted

    Thanks for all the great feedback guys. Yes I believe that too much wrestling content per week does lead to faster storylines and that is not a good thing. And to all who said Orton is the hotter wrestler, SD was recombined with Raw. Reason for this in part because poor house show attendance on SD with Orton as champion as he was suppossed to help. Orton is good, Punk is great…period.

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